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		<title>Comment on SuperTABLE Survey Results by Don McIntosh</title>
		<link>http://www.spacetimeresearch.com/archives/274/cpage/1.html#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Don McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 20:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, perhaps the best chance you will have is to extract the data you need using the RESTful SDMX API. Note that ABS is yet to confirm that the census data will be made available through this API (but at least on the technical side, it is possible). This will not give you the spatial info, but ABS will be using standard ASGC codes, so pulling the data into your drapes should be possible and indeed, it should be something that you can automate. If the API is not available, you will at least be able to create tables manually and save to CSV, SDMX, or Excel and then put the drapes together.

We have been considering a KML download feature, which would contain both data and boundary information. Any thoughts you have on this would be much appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, perhaps the best chance you will have is to extract the data you need using the RESTful SDMX API. Note that ABS is yet to confirm that the census data will be made available through this API (but at least on the technical side, it is possible). This will not give you the spatial info, but ABS will be using standard ASGC codes, so pulling the data into your drapes should be possible and indeed, it should be something that you can automate. If the API is not available, you will at least be able to create tables manually and save to CSV, SDMX, or Excel and then put the drapes together.</p>
<p>We have been considering a KML download feature, which would contain both data and boundary information. Any thoughts you have on this would be much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SuperTABLE Survey Results by Brad Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 05:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am most interested in presenting ABS Census to our users in the form of thematic maps. These manifest as semi-transparent thematic overlays that can be 'draped' over a GoogleMaps basemap. To do this we currently publish the statistical spatial data [e.g. meshblocks, CCDs, etc] plus certain Census attributes that are merged with the geometry records into specific data layers within our OGC compliant Spatial Data Warehouse. This allows people to build their own web-mapping mashups or access these DemographicDrapes from within GIS products.

What I would like to to be able to do is request and download these composite files [spatial and aspatial] on a national basis in a defacto data standard (eg Shape files or Mid/Mif files) as opposed to having to merge the spatial/aspatial data myself. Is this a direction that ABS is going down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am most interested in presenting ABS Census to our users in the form of thematic maps. These manifest as semi-transparent thematic overlays that can be &#8216;draped&#8217; over a GoogleMaps basemap. To do this we currently publish the statistical spatial data [e.g. meshblocks, CCDs, etc] plus certain Census attributes that are merged with the geometry records into specific data layers within our OGC compliant Spatial Data Warehouse. This allows people to build their own web-mapping mashups or access these DemographicDrapes from within GIS products.</p>
<p>What I would like to to be able to do is request and download these composite files [spatial and aspatial] on a national basis in a defacto data standard (eg Shape files or Mid/Mif files) as opposed to having to merge the spatial/aspatial data myself. Is this a direction that ABS is going down?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Exploring Not-So-Open Data by Don McIntosh</title>
		<link>http://www.spacetimeresearch.com/archives/245/cpage/1.html#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Don McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Starkie: thanks for you feedback. I was interested to learn more about people's views on this at a recent health informatics conference I attended here in Melbourne. I did a mini survey to with a dozen people and discovered that while everyone was aware of the importance of privacy in health, only the 1 researcher I talked with had any concern about how difficult it could be to access health data, and how that affected her productivity. And I'll add to that one cry for help from legostormtrooper on Twitter who responded to my tweet about the blog post with "Biggest barrier to analysing 'not-so-open data': Forms, oh so many bureaucratic forms! Filled out in triplicate!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Starkie: thanks for you feedback. I was interested to learn more about people&#8217;s views on this at a recent health informatics conference I attended here in Melbourne. I did a mini survey to with a dozen people and discovered that while everyone was aware of the importance of privacy in health, only the 1 researcher I talked with had any concern about how difficult it could be to access health data, and how that affected her productivity. And I&#8217;ll add to that one cry for help from legostormtrooper on Twitter who responded to my tweet about the blog post with &#8220;Biggest barrier to analysing &#8216;not-so-open data&#8217;: Forms, oh so many bureaucratic forms! Filled out in triplicate!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Exploring Not-So-Open Data by starkie</title>
		<link>http://www.spacetimeresearch.com/archives/245/cpage/1.html#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>starkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 01:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice post - highlights some critical issues. As well as the issue you cover, I think  the access and ethics approval process poses a real risk to our ability to train up new demographers and social researcher.
  
A friend of mine recently had to go through 6month+ of approvals and state sanctions to carry out research with school students.  I know this is a different situation, but the principle is the same, I think.  EDA of government data has a lot to offer modern demography and social science, but I would think that the time lines for access place a lot of barriers on young researchers and PhD students.    Even if you are researching stuff with small groups, you miss a big opportunity to study context and other broader questions without access to government data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice post - highlights some critical issues. As well as the issue you cover, I think  the access and ethics approval process poses a real risk to our ability to train up new demographers and social researcher.</p>
<p>A friend of mine recently had to go through 6month+ of approvals and state sanctions to carry out research with school students.  I know this is a different situation, but the principle is the same, I think.  EDA of government data has a lot to offer modern demography and social science, but I would think that the time lines for access place a lot of barriers on young researchers and PhD students.    Even if you are researching stuff with small groups, you miss a big opportunity to study context and other broader questions without access to government data.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Finding Harmony in Open Data by Al H</title>
		<link>http://www.spacetimeresearch.com/archives/232/cpage/1.html#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Al H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Doug.

It looks like IATI are very closely linked with DFID in the UK and also with UNDP.  Given that context, if you were interested in assistance with reviewing

(a) technical aspects of harnessing SDMX-ML to represent data and metadata structures which meet your needs (as opposed to developing an approach which is entirely IATA specific)
- SDMX, in a standard machine actionable manner, handles needs to cater for multilingual content etc 

(b) applying appropriate SDMX content standards (eg countries, currencies etc) within data and metadata structures that meet your needs

then World Bank, as an SDMX sponsor, would probably be closest in terms of content/application.

IATA's use case might (or might not) also be relevant to IMF and other sponsors reviewing possible requirements and approaches to offer an "SDMX Lite" to address concerns that SDMX in its current form may be "over-engineered" to easily support very simple use cases (although that engineering is instrumental to it meeting other use cases).

UNICEF's DevInfo team have done a lot on delivering capabilities underpinned by SDMX to developing countries, and have worked with DFID, but my understanding is that they mainly focus on statistical data rather than financial "program management" data.

If you'd be interested in following up some of these aspects but you're not sure of contacts in regard to SDMX then let me know.  

Coming back to the theme of Don's original post, one advantage of such an approach is that IATI should then be able to more readily draw on, and integrate with, relevant data from other sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doug.</p>
<p>It looks like IATI are very closely linked with DFID in the UK and also with UNDP.  Given that context, if you were interested in assistance with reviewing</p>
<p>(a) technical aspects of harnessing SDMX-ML to represent data and metadata structures which meet your needs (as opposed to developing an approach which is entirely IATA specific)<br />
- SDMX, in a standard machine actionable manner, handles needs to cater for multilingual content etc </p>
<p>(b) applying appropriate SDMX content standards (eg countries, currencies etc) within data and metadata structures that meet your needs</p>
<p>then World Bank, as an SDMX sponsor, would probably be closest in terms of content/application.</p>
<p>IATA&#8217;s use case might (or might not) also be relevant to IMF and other sponsors reviewing possible requirements and approaches to offer an &#8220;SDMX Lite&#8221; to address concerns that SDMX in its current form may be &#8220;over-engineered&#8221; to easily support very simple use cases (although that engineering is instrumental to it meeting other use cases).</p>
<p>UNICEF&#8217;s DevInfo team have done a lot on delivering capabilities underpinned by SDMX to developing countries, and have worked with DFID, but my understanding is that they mainly focus on statistical data rather than financial &#8220;program management&#8221; data.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d be interested in following up some of these aspects but you&#8217;re not sure of contacts in regard to SDMX then let me know.  </p>
<p>Coming back to the theme of Don&#8217;s original post, one advantage of such an approach is that IATI should then be able to more readily draw on, and integrate with, relevant data from other sources.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Finding Harmony in Open Data by Don McIntosh</title>
		<link>http://www.spacetimeresearch.com/archives/232/cpage/1.html#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Don McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 02:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, I had a quick browse of the "Consultation paper for data definitions and format". In summary, I think it's well worth looking at. You might also like to look at SDMX-HD (http://www.sdmx-hd.org/), which is an example of SDMX being deployed for the purpose of monitoring and evaluation in a donor community (the health domain). My understanding is that the difference between SDMX-HD and SDMX is just the additional content oriented guidelines that are being developed specifically for the health domain. Here's a useful article on it: http://www.npoki.org/tag/sdmx-hd/.  

Some more specific responses... If I understand it correctly, there are three key areas (from bottom of p. 2):

"Donors will publicly disclose regular, detailed and timely information on volume, allocation and, when available, results of development expenditure to enable more accurate budget, accounting and audit by developing countries." - I'd say this is a very strong area for SDMX. One of the main user groups and indeed, five out of seven of the standard's sponsors are financial institutes, so it's aptly suited for this kind of work. 

"Beginning now, donors and developing countries will regularly make public all conditions linked to disbursement" - there is nothing specific built into the SDMX model to help with this, but you could use annotations to document the conditions. You can do this as part of an SDMX metadata reporting structure, which allows the content and timing of future data releases to be released. You may want more than this, but it depends how "actionable" you need this information to be. If it is just to inform people, then it's probably enough. 

"Beginning now, donors will provide developing countries with regular and timely information on their rolling three- to five-year forward expenditure...." - I don't know how much SDMX is used to exchange predicted results, as opposed to numbers that already exist. However, given the model has very clear mechanisms for handling versions of data and time series, it should work OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, I had a quick browse of the &#8220;Consultation paper for data definitions and format&#8221;. In summary, I think it&#8217;s well worth looking at. You might also like to look at SDMX-HD (http://www.sdmx-hd.org/), which is an example of SDMX being deployed for the purpose of monitoring and evaluation in a donor community (the health domain). My understanding is that the difference between SDMX-HD and SDMX is just the additional content oriented guidelines that are being developed specifically for the health domain. Here&#8217;s a useful article on it: <a href="http://www.npoki.org/tag/sdmx-hd/" rel="nofollow">http://www.npoki.org/tag/sdmx-hd/</a>.  </p>
<p>Some more specific responses&#8230; If I understand it correctly, there are three key areas (from bottom of p. 2):</p>
<p>&#8220;Donors will publicly disclose regular, detailed and timely information on volume, allocation and, when available, results of development expenditure to enable more accurate budget, accounting and audit by developing countries.&#8221; - I&#8217;d say this is a very strong area for SDMX. One of the main user groups and indeed, five out of seven of the standard&#8217;s sponsors are financial institutes, so it&#8217;s aptly suited for this kind of work. </p>
<p>&#8220;Beginning now, donors and developing countries will regularly make public all conditions linked to disbursement&#8221; - there is nothing specific built into the SDMX model to help with this, but you could use annotations to document the conditions. You can do this as part of an SDMX metadata reporting structure, which allows the content and timing of future data releases to be released. You may want more than this, but it depends how &#8220;actionable&#8221; you need this information to be. If it is just to inform people, then it&#8217;s probably enough. </p>
<p>&#8220;Beginning now, donors will provide developing countries with regular and timely information on their rolling three- to five-year forward expenditure&#8230;.&#8221; - I don&#8217;t know how much SDMX is used to exchange predicted results, as opposed to numbers that already exist. However, given the model has very clear mechanisms for handling versions of data and time series, it should work OK.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Finding Harmony in Open Data by Doug Hadden</title>
		<link>http://www.spacetimeresearch.com/archives/232/cpage/1.html#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Hadden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 19:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have any comments about how SDMX could be applicable for the International Aid Transparency Initiative? http://www.aidtransparency.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have any comments about how SDMX could be applicable for the International Aid Transparency Initiative? <a href="http://www.aidtransparency.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.aidtransparency.net/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Gov 2.0 for Koalas - Community vs. Government Data by Adriel Hampton</title>
		<link>http://www.spacetimeresearch.com/archives/140/cpage/1.html#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Adriel Hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post reminds me of the one-day countrywide cleanup in Estonia last year (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5GryIDl0qY). Collaboration is incredibly powerful - can we get beyond debate and get on to doing together?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post reminds me of the one-day countrywide cleanup in Estonia last year (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5GryIDl0qY). Collaboration is incredibly powerful - can we get beyond debate and get on to doing together?</p>
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